What's changed about IDOC's?
- Thread starter Psymon
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https://www.uoforum.com/wiki/index.php/House_Decay
They have also recently added a spam click protection, which will log you out if you click house signs too many times in a small window of time. Meaning that auto sign clickers are no longer a thing. However, I've been almost logged out just from hand clicking signs.
They have also recently added a spam click protection, which will log you out if you click house signs too many times in a small window of time. Meaning that auto sign clickers are no longer a thing. However, I've been almost logged out just from hand clicking signs.
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That Wiki is useless, and says nothing about any changes.
Why are so many people crying about the changes?
Not sure which changes you are referring to then. I assumed you were looking for:
"Following changes made in August and September 2017, the loot at an IDOC will no longer drop to the ground as before. Instead every item dropped on a fallen house will have:
A 50% chance at becoming over-world loot which is forwarded to any and all over world monster spawns. Over-time this means you may kill a mongbat and obtain a major item from these idocs.
And 50% chance of that item dropping on an ettin which spawns as that house falls. If there is a lot of loot in the house, quite a few ettins will spawn - Be prepared to fight them and other IDOC hunters off!" -Wiki
If you could be more clear as to which aspect of idocing you already know and a time frame for these changes I could better answer your question.
"Following changes made in August and September 2017, the loot at an IDOC will no longer drop to the ground as before. Instead every item dropped on a fallen house will have:
A 50% chance at becoming over-world loot which is forwarded to any and all over world monster spawns. Over-time this means you may kill a mongbat and obtain a major item from these idocs.
And 50% chance of that item dropping on an ettin which spawns as that house falls. If there is a lot of loot in the house, quite a few ettins will spawn - Be prepared to fight them and other IDOC hunters off!" -Wiki
If you could be more clear as to which aspect of idocing you already know and a time frame for these changes I could better answer your question.
lost
Grandmaster
wow idocs sound kind of boring now lol
batman
Grandmaster
Why is everyone acting like this is new or something?? This is a change going on almost a year now.. You must not idoc because you would have known this has been implemented forever now!! I love killing an exp.. ancient wyrm and getting chest full of stuff and or rares but i sure dont want to recall to a house every 30 minutes hoping it fell
Yes, and some people don't enjoy hunting. Different aspect and play styles attract different people. I think what upsets most people is that it is very clear what player type the GMs are trying to please (PVM/Tamers). But by doing this they are sacraficing important elements of other peoples play styles. I have even messaged Shane about this before and he admits to changing Idoc rules knowing he would be sacrificing a whole class of people, which is also my favorite tenplate(Stealth Idoc Mages) in order to please what they feel is a larger audience (PVMers).
You should also consider that the changes may have benefitted you, but they did hurt other people. Some people instead of making tamers and provo archers, put thier time and effort into making multiple idoc specific characters which in most cases are useless.
drasked
Grandmaster
Personally i prefer the ettin dance over the scavanger dance.
Well I think what upset a lot of people is that the GMs acted liked thier was no skill involved in IDOCs. There was plenty of skill and necessary knowledge which could be used to help you IDOC, just like thier is plenty of skill and knowledge you develop in hunting and champs. Instead they removed any aspect of skill that thier used to be. I also dont think they realized the massive time investment that many people were giving for the possibility of a reward. And instead of rewarding those people they reduced their chances of getting something good and gave it to PVMers who are already garenteed rewards (Powerscrolls, Taming Scrolls, GOLD).
It just seems like they completely ruined a whole community of people just to add a small new feature to PVM.
It just seems like they completely ruined a whole community of people just to add a small new feature to PVM.
Okay so you could time idocs on steam, which is still currently possible... But id love for you to show me any legal house placing, loot grabbing, or map running scripts.
You want people to not have perfect times, go back to 25 hour idocs decay and have the last 1-2 hours of the window be a random chance for the house to fall. the ettin system seems a bit unnecessary. If someone is going to put in hours and hour to run around the whole map, constantly check their greatly worns, and camp and idoc, dont they deserve the loot? Or atleast more than 1-2 chest.
batman
Grandmaster
Again y does any one individual /guild
"deserve" someone elses loot?? Because you clicked a sign over and over.. There was alot of loot decaying because not all houses gets looted.. Now 50 goes to a sign clicker and 50 goes through out the lands!! #clickingasignisntaskill
"deserve" someone elses loot?? Because you clicked a sign over and over.. There was alot of loot decaying because not all houses gets looted.. Now 50 goes to a sign clicker and 50 goes through out the lands!! #clickingasignisntaskill
Why does someone saying "all kill" deserve the loot over someone who is fighting off reds, giving up character slotsfor stealthers and putting in massive amount of time for not garunteed reward.
#allkill=noskill
Instead of giving it to the people who enjoy that aspect of the game. Lets give it to the people already getting rich on powerscrolls, relics, and meta pet eggs.
batman
Grandmaster
U had points till this, everyone in this game has stealthers/thiefs/pkrs attacking stealing greifing etc.. And not everyone has metas
#freethenipples
If someone puts work into finding, timing, and attending an idoc. Why does someone who did not put in the effort deserve the loot?
If someone decides to dedicate thier time into doing champs and farming. Why should they also be given the loot for someone elses work?
#nofilter
#blessed
#goals
#IMBATMAN
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AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
Sign clicking scripts... Timing scripts... Scavenger to pick up all the loot... Everyone basically walked around and added anything of value on their scavengers and it was just a race on who could run back and forth the fastest auto picking stuff up. That was the reason for the ettins.
I do agree, the 50% going to world drops, may have not been in the best interests of IDOC'n as a trade, however consider that value of some of these homes, with all their special hue'd statues, and relics and such locked down. It often became the biggest group who made out with everything, because they could run off all the PK's.. one guy timed out the IDOC, and his entire guild comes to collect up the free loot, there was no active IDOC'n for many of those people..
The rich got richer.. again...
At least PvM farming is an active play style, that has people interacting with others out in the virtual world..
I do agree, the 50% going to world drops, may have not been in the best interests of IDOC'n as a trade, however consider that value of some of these homes, with all their special hue'd statues, and relics and such locked down. It often became the biggest group who made out with everything, because they could run off all the PK's.. one guy timed out the IDOC, and his entire guild comes to collect up the free loot, there was no active IDOC'n for many of those people..
The rich got richer.. again...
At least PvM farming is an active play style, that has people interacting with others out in the virtual world..
batman
Grandmaster
Guess you win lol
So you are claiming that people going out and solo farming (which is what majority of people do). Allows you to interect with more people than a whole guild coming together to do an idoc?
You also need to realize that house worth mega milzz dont drop everyday, or even every week.
And i do understand the script timing was an issue, but i would rather go back to a random fall timer than to have these ettins. As for savager, it a part of the game in everyother aspect, why not idocs. You cant scavage 90% of idoc loot (which is in heavy chest). But its simillar to a champ, you hope that you win the lotto and get the item against all the other people who are their.
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
I probably didn't explain that well, but many people out solo farming, and running into each other, makes for activity and interaction.. a guild all clustered together in the middle of no where, getting free loot doesn't really... Not interaction between other groups of people.
I think the ettins were necessary due to scavenger (which can't be used to loot really good items at other activities). Other than that, I really don't have a horse in the race of if 50% of the loot should go to over land spawn. If i had to make a call, I'd say 50% should just be deleted... That items should decay off the server over time, creating demand for new items to be crafted and made, so that an economy could thrive, and some of these insane gold amounts could get consumed.
I think the ettins were necessary due to scavenger (which can't be used to loot really good items at other activities). Other than that, I really don't have a horse in the race of if 50% of the loot should go to over land spawn. If i had to make a call, I'd say 50% should just be deleted... That items should decay off the server over time, creating demand for new items to be crafted and made, so that an economy could thrive, and some of these insane gold amounts could get consumed.