Vivify revamp (wow great idea cups!)

Hey, guys. I have been playing my meta mage for awhile now and I enjoy it. I talk to other meta mages I see and kinda chit chat about life as a meta mage. One thing I've noticed is virtually all meta mages skip working on the vivify relic. It's tedious to work on and plain boring. You literally just summon an 8th circle pet every minute. The computer equivalent of watching paint dry... so I can understand why the relic gets neglected. I thought of a way to improve it that would get people jazzed about leveling vivify.

What if vivify daemons summoned by the player were a reflection of the meta mage that summoned it? I'll try to explain it best I can, but lets say if you had vivify and you summoned a daemon that the daemon's spells would be just as strong as the meta mage that summoned the daemon. So the higher level the meta mage the stronger the meta mage deaemon's spells are(assuming its a vivify daemon.) Also the vivify summoned daemon could proc the relics like focus, shadowy and dispersion so long as the meta mage that summoned the daemon had those relics applied to their talisman. You would need to add delays in how often the relics could proc to keep it balanced.

Anyway, that's all I have for now. If anyone has any suggestions or critiques feel free to post them.

I think that would break the meta mage by becoming too powerful. At first I thought this was Going to be a suggestion on how the relic was leveled. Say 1 point to vivify relic per ~300 damage the summon does. Each tali has a pretty terrible relic option so it would make sense that mage does too

Honestly this would break the meta mage, and the Vivify Daemon is already very powerful, a great tank, who recalls with you, hard to dispel, gives the mage a lot of flexibility, it's biggest draw back is the leveling mechanic in that case I agree with Trusty, I'd love to see the Vivify gain additional points on damage the summon does, because as it stands now, it's an afk trained relic, on a second screen while you play another account. I'm happy to share the script for that to.

And if you are looking for a terrible relic option it's the Focus relic. Not the Vivify. 50% damage increase on 1 mob, at level 10, every 40 seconds... Dispersion is 100% damage at level 1 on 1 mob, and 1000% damage at level 10 across 10 mobs.

Yeah, agree. Focus is really underwhelming.

Fantastic

The demon should also have 100 mana like you tho

lollo said:

The demon should also have 100 mana like you tho

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If mana is calculated by intelligence than cups daemon should have maximum of 50 for that above reason.

ok maybe my idea wasn't as good as I felt. peav is mean. I hate vivify.

There is no issue with Vivify. Vivify is an awesome relic. I got it first on all my meta mages and i have to say i love a level 10 vivify demon tanking almost everything out there. You can recall with it. Remember, with the first Vivifies you couldn't even recall.

IMO focus is the weak point. That little extra dmg isn't worth millions.

All they have to do is revert the meta mage nerf that was implemented because of the ONE guy that that got top score @ the vesper invasion. He got that score cause he farmed it 24/7 on a maxed level 10 (rare at the time) not because the meta mage was OP.

Lexington said:

All they have to do is revert the meta mage nerf that was implemented because of the ONE guy that that got top score @ the vesper invasion. He got that score cause he farmed it 24/7 on a maxed level 10 (rare at the time) not because the meta mage was OP.

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Plus the 2 or 3 people on the server with All Slayer books.

Phrygian said:

Plus the 2 or 3 people on the server with All Slayer books.

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(1 person)... and what's that got to do with the guy who cause the nerf... he didn't have one.

Lexington said:

(1 person)... and what's that got to do with the guy who cause the nerf... he didn't have one.

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There are 3 people with all slayer books on the server. And it's often quoted as being another reason that the Meta Mage is in it's current state.

3 that I know of, that is.

How were these books introduced in the first place?

I’ve heard rumors of someone paying 5k per for 2 (10k) total.

Can anyone confirm ?


Where did the 3rd come from?

I heard there was 4, but 3 of the players don't really play anymore... also was that a polkaroo that just ran by?

Phrygian said:

There are 3 people with all slayer books on the server. And it's often quoted as being another reason that the Meta Mage is in it's current state.

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You're new looks like so you don't know the history. Two of the 3 players don't currently play. One hasn't for a long time… and the other rarely ever played his meta mage. Highlander... "There can be only one"!


If you’re trying to convince the developers that there is a huge injustice and advantage out there… good luck. They’ve done their job with the implementation of the slayer spell books and the upcoming spell book slayer deeds. We can sit here all day and go back and forth, but the reality is, the Meta mage as a whole needs to be buffed or (un-nerfed as I call it) to keep up with the other metas.

I would kill a man for one of those books.

AreYouKidden said:

I heard there was 4, but 3 of the players don't really play anymore... also was that a polkaroo that just ran by?

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Lexington said:

You're new looks like so you don't know the history. Two of the 3 players don't currently play. One hasn't for a long time… and the other rarely ever played his meta mage. Highlander... "There can be only one"!


If you’re trying to convince the developers that there is a huge injustice and advantage out there… good luck. They’ve done their job with the implementation of the slayer spell books and the upcoming spell book slayer deeds. We can sit here all day and go back and forth, but the reality is, the Meta mage as a whole needs to be buffed or (un-nerfed as I call it) to keep up with the other metas.

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I'm not arguing that the Meta Mage doesn't need to be buffed, quite the opposite. I have seen 2 of the books in person, and I've only played here a few months. All I'm saying, is that the perception of the meta mage being "fine" is being skewed by people with an advantage that no one else has, thus contributing to it's current lackluster state.

Phrygian said:

I'm not arguing that the Meta Mage doesn't need to be buffed, quite the opposite. I have seen 2 of the books in person, and I've only played here a few months. All I'm saying, is that the perception of the meta mage being "fine" is being skewed by people with an advantage that no one else has, thus contributing to it's current lackluster state.

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See the avatar to the left… that black book that in the pic! I know all there is to know about you’re unwarranted perception of the meta mage state. That book does not give anyone any real advantage for anything. It was a reward for server support and commitment well over 4 ½ years ago.

The facts!!!

It and every other slayer spell book (crafted or not crafted) are constantly being out-scored at pretty much every champ and dungeon boss out there. That little black book is not what’s making the mage mage weak in comparison. The fact you guys keep fixating on it might though!