Deathcam

TheFallen

Grandmaster
Don't have spawn timers be random but a % chance ofa particular mob spawning as said rare mob. Ie . You want the rare work the spawn.
Make white wyrm s spawn as a rare white horse at .05% of the time.
 
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Kael

Master
I think the DeathCam is a great idea. It is just a random reflection of whats happening at all times
 

gofer

Grandmaster
When exactly does this thing come on? You die and poof (no pun intended @JoeB) it comes on while you are a ghost? If so, how long do you stay on the cam?
 
There is an inherent issue with the deathcam and revealing locations other players don't know about. We could code around champ spawns but we can't with idocs. This means we will have to weigh the pros and cons of the deathcam in the coming weeks.
There are no pros. Only cons. Watch how the reds FLOCK to an area when there is a blue guild working and one dies. After that it's all over. It is like spying on players. Worst idea you have come up with. Not a fan of it at all.
 
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Shane

Guest
There are no pros. Only cons. Watch how the reds FLOCK to an area when there is a blue guild working and one dies. After that it's all over. It is like spying on players. Worst idea you have come up with. Not a fan of it at all.
There are alot of marketing/advertising pros. In fact we have gotten a few players already from it.

What we are doing is putting really large delays on it though.
 

Rudy

Journeyman
There are alot of marketing/advertising pros. In fact we have gotten a few players already from it.

What we are doing is putting really large delays on it though.


dont get discouraged by noobs who cant recal fast enough when they see red names. The cam is amazing and one of the best things that has happened tbh.... PVP IS BOOMING WHAT MORE COULD ANYONE ASK FOR STOP WHINNING, GET SOME BLUE FREINDS, AND ZERG THE MURDERERS! I dont even PK and im all for the action/deathcam
 

U-Haul

Master
IMO, there needs to be an option like [publicchar/privatechar with myuoforever. I see the PVP bennies of it and drawing new players in. at least give us the option....

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also the fact viewers can read guild/party chat is another turn off.
 

Lexington

Grandmaster
Is there a way to turn off the auto play function of the action cam window from the main form page? The advertisement really... the sound always seems so loud?
 

Rippen

Adept
I think the idea and concept is quite good. Advertising which gets new players is a great idea. I do think that it should not focus on champ spawns so that guilds can still attempt, for the most part, to do their events etc. Aside from that, great idea and all the power to getting more players. Lets just be fair to the loyal players you have now as well.
 

N49ATV

Adept
I guess we can also point out the following:
Why should the same idoc guilds get every idoc.
Why should the same champ spawn guilds get every champ....


My issue would be having the cam on an additional monitor, and just playing. See that someone has started a champ, you know it roughly takes X time. Don't worry about going around and checking, just worry about coming in with a spotter in say 1hr, and double check the stage, then roll in with the raid.

It prevents the need for a ghost cam (don't like them) but if delay is low enough, they can just get a rough time, and not have to recall around and check the spots manually.

Though too long of a delay would make the shard seem dead, during what most would consider peak times 6est-10pst
 

Malkraven

Grandmaster
I guess we can also point out the following:
Why should the same idoc guilds get every idoc.
Why should the same champ spawn guilds get every champ.


So far this has been more positive than anything. I'd personally like to see IDOC loot more spread out instead of the same main idocers getting unreal wealthy time and time again.

Of course those people are going to be upset that they don't get all the loot though, but all it does is 100% promote activity on the server, which is nothing but a GREAT thing.

Also think about the newbies that join, this gives them a great chance to see some end-gameplay and other things they can eventually adventure into on Ultima Online Forever

This is true but what about small guilds attempting champs they just get zerged when champ spawns by the same big guilds your talking about after some time people will just not bother doing the work on the champs for 20 lazy mfers that cba to do the spawn them self's show up at end and take the scrolls.

I have asked my guild to do champs many times today already and the response was "i cba with it if 20 people are just gonna turn up for the last 5 mins...." ( this is after 1 bad experience with Neira last night).

I do like the Action cam idea as a whole but i feel your gonna need to tweak it alot or you gonna stop people bothering with some aspects of them game...
 

Sampo

Apprentice
The death cam is a change and people can always look at the negative side of any change but over all it is pure unadulterated genius.
Who hasn't caught themselves laughing at the comments after a death? Who hasn't seen the cam switch to two guys macroing a weapon skill and thought "someone ran out of bandies!" Who hasn't watched a death in an interesting area and thought "I always liked fighting/farming there" and headed out the door for adventure.

The Web Cam helps you see where reds are prowling so you can respond in force or cower in fear in another location depending on you play style. Sure it let's you know about IDOCs and champ spawns but the more the merrier from a shard health perspective.

The bottom line is that UO isn't about fancy graphics or interaction with game content. It is about the interaction (good or bad) with other players. The death cam increases the interaction. It is a huge benefit to the shard.

All that aside... keep it for the LOLZ. It is really really funny at times.

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N49ATV

Adept
I wouldn't want it to be removed. A 1hr delay would be perfect, or no delay and block champs. If you wanna raid, you should have to scout, organize, and commit a stealther to watching candles and call the troops in
 

gofer

Grandmaster
I wouldn't want it to be removed. A 1hr delay would be perfect, or no delay and block champs. If you wanna raid, you should have to scout, organize, and commit a stealther to watching candles and call the troops in

That defeats the purpose of the interaction component; adding variables (no champs, no rare spawns, w/e..) to the cam likely makes the programming much more difficult to implement. Positives and negatives for the cam...as with most things...

EDIT: This thing has grief cam written all over it, but it is comical. Just saw someone get killed in their house, someone macroing in a dungeon, etc.
 
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N49ATV

Adept
This will eliminate small groups, or smaller guilds from doing champs. Big guilds will have someone with 3 monitors. 1 has account A, 2 has account B, 3 has live stream of server. No need to check spawns, they will make the rotation.
 

gofer

Grandmaster
This will eliminate small groups, or smaller guilds from doing champs. Big guilds will have someone with 3 monitors. 1 has account A, 2 has account B, 3 has live stream of server. No need to check spawns, they will make the rotation.

I edited my previous post; it does have grief cam written all over it. To play Devil's Advocate, you cannot expect them to shutdown a component of the server (the cam) that is bringing in new players and stimulates player interaction (for better or worst), because one, high level facet of the game (champs) has the potential to be abused. There are alternatives, such as alliances.
 

N49ATV

Adept
I edited my previous post; it does have grief cam written all over it. To play Devil's Advocate, you cannot expect them to shutdown a component of the server (the cam) that is bringing in new players and stimulates player interaction (for better or worst), because one, high level facet of the game (champs) has the potential to be abused. There are alternatives, such as alliances.

Oh I agree, and don't want it removed, I had a couple good laughs, and I only watched it for 10 mins. Some of the situations, I could relate to, some I though "how else did they expect that to go any different".

I think a 1hr delay if all is to be shown would be good. As it wouldn't mess with champ spawns, it wouldn't allow PKs to just watch cam for an easy farmer, and recalling in, killing, looting, rinse/repeat. When I watched it wasn't just death, there was PvM action etc. But there could be cuts of big champs for luring in new players.

Or a low delay (even 1-2 mins) without champs area. That would allow red hunting etc, but not just have it completely grief
 

gofer

Grandmaster
Oh I agree, and don't want it removed, I had a couple good laughs, and I only watched it for 10 mins. Some of the situations, I could relate to, some I though "how else did they expect that to go any different".

I think a 1hr delay if all is to be shown would be good. As it wouldn't mess with champ spawns, it wouldn't allow PKs to just watch cam for an easy farmer, and recalling in, killing, looting, rinse/repeat. When I watched it wasn't just death, there was PvM action etc. But there could be cuts of big champs for luring in new players.

Or a low delay (even 1-2 mins) without champs area. That would allow red hunting etc, but not just have it completely grief

I just watched for the first time (10mins much like yourself) and saw @berticus die in a house with @Malkraven watching, some guy drag a bunch of spawn in Khaldun only to get killed moments later, another guy get lit up in Khaldun, and @DaRift asking Tom if he looked pretty in Brit. This cam is great for the laughs. A low delay, as you mentioned, may be the happy medium.
 
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