Good evening UOF! - Major changes needed!

More Felluca - Less trammel!


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Baby Blue

Master
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with Sallos you can't macro your explosion potions. There isn't any kind of macro/recording options.
 

Slick Brick

Grandmaster
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with Sallos you can't macro your explosion potions. There isn't any kind of macro/recording options.
I didnt say that Sallos macro'd the explosion potions and it's really not that hard to throw them yourself. I'm saying they do wayyyy to much damage and people are wayyyy too dependant on them. #NotOldSchoolUO
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
Well now that Sallos and explo pots are the absolute lifelines of all these players, I suppose the players would actually have to learn the game like it was meant to be played instead of endless scripts for targeting someone 15 screens away, pre-queueing heals of someone they cant even see etc. etc.
---> cheat accusations, shouldn't be missing in any explopot thread

Since dexxers are so dependant on them now, maybe buff the dexxers damage or chance to hit slightly.. mages would have viability opened up of using a weapon skill with magery again. Stun and scribe mages will always be good in groups and when not having to constantly deal with 30 damage explo pots every 4 seconds would be able to deal with whoever they are fighting solo. People die every Mage tournament when pots aren't allowed.
---> sense? How can you compare mage tournaments WITHOUT POTS to open field fighting? obviously a lack of experience, dexxers also deal good dmg as it is.

The only downside I can potentially think of is you won't be able to 3 explo pot kill a non-healing char whos running non-stop. No one is saying in seriousness that they should/would be removed, BUT they do not need to do more damage than level 6+ spells while having no downfall/limitation of using them. How can anyone take this seriously when someone throws 40 explosion potions in one prolonged fight and still has more in his/her bag?
---> finally the true intentions of Slick Brick come to light: He's butthurt that he can't run away and always dies because he's either too poor to carry gheal pots or too dumb. He obviously also doesn't know about the spell "mini heal"
 

CAPTUN AUSTRALIA

Grandmaster
@Slick Brick is my favourite player on UOF

Everytime he dies, he comes up with new ways for me to kill myself, like:

"go hang yourself"

"your parent's won't care if you put a gun to your temple"

"VEGEMITE SAMMICH EATING AUSSIE kind person"

He is awesome, his rage fuels my desire to rape him constantly.

If i was contemplating suicide, i'd definitely hit up @Slick Brick , cause i know that kid has the most creative ways to do it.
 

Slick Brick

Grandmaster
So you're saying you can't change targets to someone off screen with Sallos? I didnt say you could throw an explosion pot further than its allowed, but you want to misinterpret anything you can so you can ignore the facts and keep playing the no-skill way you are :D.
 

Slick Brick

Grandmaster
Aw man I knew the hype men would be here soon lol :D. There's no more fun than getting POWER worked up on the forums lol.
 

CAPTUN AUSTRALIA

Grandmaster
So you're saying you can't change targets to someone off screen with Sallos? I didnt say you could throw an explosion pot further than its allowed, but you want to misinterpret anything you can so you can ignore the facts and keep playing the no-skill way you are :D.

I will agree with you friend, client pvp is gay, most of these 'pvpers' or zerglings rely purely on target macros. Targeting off-screen is a gay feature.

I use razor only. And with that, i don't automate pvp at all - although my tamer now has a recorded dismount/mount macro as of like a month ago if that counts.
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
So you're saying you can't change targets to someone off screen with Sallos? I didnt say you could throw an explosion pot further than its allowed, but you want to misinterpret anything you can so you can ignore the facts and keep playing the no-skill way you are :D.


we can 5x if you like. Ah sorry - is your "ping too bad" ? noobie. You'd never kill me in any era, with any settings bcuz u bad.
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
WRONG!

In RL, he'd probably bring the most bad ass rape kit and teach you the meaning of pain! (given the amount of garbage he spouts at shrines as a new res).


i wouldnt be surprised if he was a convivted special offender with those fantasies of his..
 

Slick Brick

Grandmaster
we can 5x if you like. Ah sorry - is your "ping too bad" ? noobie. You'd never kill me in any era, with any settings bcuz u bad.
Would hate for kid like you to act like you were banned again for months after a loss in seething rage cause you got wrecked without your baby wayby explo pots and sallos. Truth is you have no counter arguments to the facts laid out in this thread except that you like playing like a cheap ass and change the subject faster than someone in POWER does when you ask them when the last time they got laid was. Go get more people to cheer mindlessly at your pointless posts. #CallingAllHypemen #WhursMalkWhenYaNeedHype
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
Would hate for kid like you to act like you were banned again for months after a loss in seething rage cause you got wrecked without your baby wayby explo pots and sallos. Truth is you have no counter arguments to the facts laid out in this thread except that you like playing like a cheap ass and change the subject faster than someone in POWER does when you ask them when the last time they got laid was. Go get more people to cheer mindlessly at your pointless posts. #CallingAllHypemen #WhursMalkWhenYaNeedHype


? I could also log on razor/steam and have Admins/GMs check it for me, or just take screenshots while I shit on you in 5x - it's all possible. I also don't get why I don't have any arguments now when I've clearly shown that you're just another crying trammy in this thread who has little to no PVP experiences (apart from that time in 1999 when you were top notch and the captain of your high school's football team). I'm also not sure if you should play the "nerd card" when it's 8:45 where you liveand youre on the forums - again.
 

Slick Brick

Grandmaster
? I could also log on razor/steam and have Admins/GMs check it for me, or just take screenshots while I shit on you in 5x - it's all possible. I also don't get why I don't have any arguments now when I've clearly shown that you're just another crying trammy in this thread who has little to no PVP experiences (apart from that time in 1999 when you were top notch and the captain of your high school's football team). I'm also not sure if you should play the "nerd card" when it's 8:45 where you liveand youre on the forums - again.
So mad LOL :D I win again #BanFakesForAttention
 

Orgha

Apprentice
I think the young status is just up to personal taste :) I agree to disagree. I know it gets abused but if a new person comes to the server and gets beat down constantly who isn't a hardcore UO veteran they are going to get frustrated and leave before they really get going. A little buffer to get established i think is good. I can agree with perhaps dropping the skill cap to lose the young status. That would be a fair comprise you can't become a GM on young status. That could also reduce the abuse. So that middle ground I can agree on.

I say reduce young player benefit. They have a trammie dungeon. Fine that lets players get established without getting fucked repeatedly. They shouldn't be safe anywhere a normal isn't safe outside that trammie dungeon. Period. It's nothing short of stupid to allow a young to farm deceit without the risk of pk. When my char was young i just laughed at pks. Absolute shit game mechanics.

As far as skill caps and gm caps, they dont work. On my young when i was farming the trammie dungeon to get started on this shard i just locked my skills and kept on till my time limit ran out. I had nearly 1 mil by that time from the trammie dungeon. Easy.

Also everyone is either oblivious to the action camera or ******** for not thinking it should not be opt-in without a prompt at the very least. For those who don't know everyone by default is being streamed on twitchtv for all to see with a 30 min delay. The issue here is new players dont know this and often will farm slow, run around instead of recall, and frequent the same areas. This stream sniping allows pks to greatly increase their odds of finding new players and killing/griefing them.

Think you are hunting in a hardly traveled area? Doesn't matter. Stream exposed you.

Yes this can be disabled. But how do you expect new players to do this when they might hardly grasp the game to begin with. Let alone shitty custom features like this
 

Orgha

Apprentice
And for the record i'm not saying people should be able to farm in the same spot for over half an hour without due risk. One special * already fielded that comment.

What i'm saying is players should be able to farm without a guaranteed (near 100%) risk of a pk showing up because of being unwittingly stream sniped. That is not how the game is supposed to be. It also makes end game content like champs ******** because they take longer than 30 mins. Guess what? I can sit back on my pk and watch the stream waiting for champ to spawn then pop in at last minute and fuck everyone up. Again this isn't about some risk. This about lazy shit pks exploiting the game through a stream snipe.
 

ricky10604

Neophyte
I get a strong since you are playing a thief and trying to sell a get rich quick scheme for yourself :p.

In all seriousness you have some valid points but personally I don't think they are stronger than what is currently in place. Was fun debating with you and seem like a solid person so I hope you stick around.

No sir, I am infact not a thief, Nor have i played one in a few years, I've always hated them, But its a love hate relationship, I hate them for stealing my shit, but love the fact they keep tamers and other people on there toes.


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Yeah i make 360,000 USD a year at 23, Im sorry if that seems beyond Your achievement list?. I didnt say i care about people donating, If you could get an education (maybe go to school, 360k might not seem so distant to you) you'll be able to read what i put.

I stated, I don't mind donating, And i dont mind that people donate for fancy items, What i do mind is people have a PAY TO WIN experience going.
By all means donate, and receive fancy clothes, But make them Non Tradeable/Droppable. So that we can see who the people supporting the shard are. (atm we can tell by all the fancy colours, huge houses and insane weapons)

Defiance UO went the same way as this server is at the moment, more and more trammel, It was closed a couple of years after.
If you kill somebody for 100 regs and a power/vanq weapon, You should feel like you've accomplished something, Not that he can go back to a chest with another 1,000 weps and 10k-100k regs because he bought a donation bundle and sold it.

There is no counter to explosion potions, And its not difficult to set up you can make a razor macro and just either have it auto throw them, or click last target to throw when you're ready.

What im saying is Heal pots have a cooldown where as explosion potions dont. The majority of PvPrs on here at the moment cant pvp, All they do is run a macro to throw explo pots and think they're awesome by following and left clicking. UOR should have some skill based PvP, (nox lock in 5x) (drops, and skilled times in 7x) Not press F1 to start explo macro, follow somebody until one of you run out of pots.

Really removes the skill, I'm guessing you're one of the few "newbs" that cant PvP so instead build alchemy characters.
I feel sorry for you :)

And to others, It would be fun to play UO again, But there's no way i can convince my friends (Avid PvP'rs and a couple of thieves) to play. The main requirements they want just arent here. :(


"What i'm saying is players should be able to farm without a guaranteed (near 100%) risk of a pk showing up because of being unwittingly stream sniped. That is not how the game is supposed to be. It also makes end game content like champs ******** because they take longer than 30 mins. Guess what? I can sit back on my pk and watch the stream waiting for champ to spawn then pop in at last minute and fuck everyone up. Again this isn't about some risk. This about lazy shit pks exploiting the game through a stream snipe."

So what you're sayingis you can't handle a PK swarm, Gather up friends, when they enter drop the shit out of them, Be prepared, This is the EXACT reason i'm talking about. People who want to be able to kill spawn and not worry about PK's Felluca is PvP, You belong in Trammel.


Rick,
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
I get a strong since you are playing a thief and trying to sell a get rich quick scheme for yourself :p.

In all seriousness you have some valid points but personally I don't think they are stronger than what is currently in place. Was fun debating with you and seem like a solid person so I hope you stick around.

No sir, I am infact not a thief, Nor have i played one in a few years, I've always hated them, But its a love hate relationship, I hate them for stealing my shit, but love the fact they keep tamers and other people on there toes.


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Yeah i make 360,000 USD a year at 23, Im sorry if that seems beyond Your achievement list?. I didnt say i care about people donating, If you could get an education (maybe go to school, 360k might not seem so distant to you) you'll be able to read what i put.

I stated, I don't mind donating, And i dont mind that people donate for fancy items, What i do mind is people have a PAY TO WIN experience going.
By all means donate, and receive fancy clothes, But make them Non Tradeable/Droppable. So that we can see who the people supporting the shard are. (atm we can tell by all the fancy colours, huge houses and insane weapons)

Defiance UO went the same way as this server is at the moment, more and more trammel, It was closed a couple of years after.
If you kill somebody for 100 regs and a power/vanq weapon, You should feel like you've accomplished something, Not that he can go back to a chest with another 1,000 weps and 10k-100k regs because he bought a donation bundle and sold it.

There is no counter to explosion potions, And its not difficult to set up you can make a razor macro and just either have it auto throw them, or click last target to throw when you're ready.

What im saying is Heal pots have a cooldown where as explosion potions dont. The majority of PvPrs on here at the moment cant pvp, All they do is run a macro to throw explo pots and think they're awesome by following and left clicking. UOR should have some skill based PvP, (nox lock in 5x) (drops, and skilled times in 7x) Not press F1 to start explo macro, follow somebody until one of you run out of pots.

Really removes the skill, I'm guessing you're one of the few "newbs" that cant PvP so instead build alchemy characters.
I feel sorry for you :)

And to others, It would be fun to play UO again, But there's no way i can convince my friends (Avid PvP'rs and a couple of thieves) to play. The main requirements they want just arent here. :(


"What i'm saying is players should be able to farm without a guaranteed (near 100%) risk of a pk showing up because of being unwittingly stream sniped. That is not how the game is supposed to be. It also makes end game content like champs ******** because they take longer than 30 mins. Guess what? I can sit back on my pk and watch the stream waiting for champ to spawn then pop in at last minute and fuck everyone up. Again this isn't about some risk. This about lazy shit pks exploiting the game through a stream snipe."

So what you're sayingis you can't handle a PK swarm, Gather up friends, when they enter drop the shit out of them, Be prepared, This is the EXACT reason i'm talking about. People who want to be able to kill spawn and not worry about PK's Felluca is PvP, You belong in Trammel.


Rick,


who were you on Defiance? Your understanding of how explosion potions work is flawed. (and they do have a cool-down inbetween throwing them + a countdown) I also don't get how explosion potions are stopping you from 5xing in any way or fashion.


You are also comparing DFI's donation system to UOFs which can't be done IMO as they're very different - on UOF you only get WEARABLES, and other FASHION ITEMS for your donation coins while on DFI you could buy ressources, gold and basically anything as long as Light was in need for some irl $ (RIP nick)
 
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